The Monday Episode discussion thread on the Walford Web kindergarten has devolved into a contest between two of the biggest Katapologists and Katshitshippers in the world, Will Slater-Mitchell and Bex, to see who can come up with the most pejorative adjectives to fling against Alfie.
You see, they're not Kalfie shippers. No. They, especially the insidious Will Slater-Mitchell, purport to be avid fans of Kat Slater as was - the iconic female figure from the 2000-2005 period - the mouthy tart-with-a-heart who never does anything but good (even when she's doing wrong) and who, for some reason, deserves better than someone like Alfie - whom they see as a drip, a doormat and a dishrag whose very existence as such gives Kat relevance to behave as she wants.
They excuse the fact that she absolves herself of any responsibility by citing wicked Uncle'Arry's abuse as an excuse to be the "dirty girl" she describes herself as being, every time she slopes off to fuck some random stranger in an alleway because the husband whose love she said redeemed her and made her feel clean again when she married him almost a decade ago.
The abject truth is that Bex and Will Slater-Mitchell, the latter of whom sports a Kat avatar, are simply Alfie-haters - and for "Alfie", read man-haters, who would like Walford to evolve into an Amazonian society of loud, gobby, rude and smacking females - which they would mistakenly recognise as feisty and strong.
They're wrong.
Their chief complaint on the thread is how "pathetic" Alfie's reaction to Kat, post-split, has been - how he hasn't stopped looking after her or caring for her, how his behaviour has willfully led her to believe he still cares and how he's deluding Roxy.
The ambiguous screen names and dubious female avatars might make some lurkers believe these are extremely bitchy women pushing some pretty inappropriate behaviour in a fortysomething woman who should know better, and actually excusing infidelity in a woman when such behaviour would be condemned in a man.
They aren't women. They're men, and their sexism regarding their own gender is both fallacious and disgusting. For them, Alfie has always been a doormat. They practice a double standard that's pernicious to the nth degree, and the ironic fact is that they're too obtuse to realise that, in accusing Alfie of cowardice in the face of Kat, by refusing to answer the viable and relevant points raised by one prominent forum member, Nebraska, they are pretty big cowards, themselves - especially the loquacious Will Slater-Mitchell.
Check out pages 2 and 3 of the thread, and you'll see what I mean.
For in their jaded opinion, Alfie is damned whatever he does. He would have been damned if he'd chucked Kat when she crawled back to Walford, pregnant with his cousin's child, after a one-night stand - and, bozos (and I'm speaking to Bex and Will, here, who also happen to be two of the biggest bullybois Walford Web has ever produced), please note: a couple is a couple until they are divorced. Any separation of a couple, unless it's by divorce, means they are still married; so when Kat slept with the Living Dead, she was still married to Alfie.
If you don't believe that, check out the goddamn law.
Yes, if Alfie had refused to honour his serially unfaithful wife and assume parenthood for another man's child, he would have been condemned. As it is, he's condemned for doing so. Thus, in the world of Bex and Will, he is not a "manly man" - although they never actually make it clear what a "manly man" should do in this situation. I guess that also makes the likes of Patrick Truman, Ian Beale, Kevin and Brian Wicks and Garry Hobbes not "manly men," because they've taken on other men's children and raised them as their own. Hell, even Phil Mitchell's done that.
Alfie would have also been condemned if he'd slung Kat out into the street when he first found out about her knee-trembler with the delivery man. They would have screamed their disgust at such treatment. As it was, they failed to understand how someone could so completely love another person that they live in hope that their behaviour might one day change - such unconditional love, makes a man a doormat and that's what they labelled Alfie.
They need to remember the way Grant Mitchell behaved when his wife was unfaithful with his brother. They would have condemned the prolonged response of bartering her off as a whore to his mates, culminating in forcing her to sign divorce papers by marching slowly around the kitchen table, systematically smashing dishes until she was terrorised into signing the papers and leaving town. They would also have condemned Ricky Butcher for running after the feckless Bianca in the wake of her infidelity with Dan Sullivan, desperate for a future with his wife.
And lately, this week, they condemn the way Alfie asked Kat for a divorce.
He was measured, compassionate and kind. He was reasonable. He told her he loved her and would always love her; but because he no longer trusted her, there could be no marriage, and he would have to move on. Compare that with the way Grant Mitchell forced divorce upon Sharon. Or think about that other "manly man," Ian Beale, flinging Wife Number Three, Laura, out into the cold on a Christmas Day, because he didn't think he fathered her child. Or think of the original divorce action on the programme - Den serving Angie with papers on Christmas Day after discovering her deception.
Maybe they were "manly men," but I suppose they would probably condemn those men as assholes, themselves. Takes one to know one.
Alfie's civilised approach smoked out Kat's entitlement and arrogance. First, she used Tommy as a weapon (as she usually does). That didn't work. Then she grasped at straws, reminding him that he did say he loved her and promising him they could build on that, even promising him she would change (always a sign of someone on the losing end of something). And that would work until she got bored or felt she was being slighted by not being worshipped 24/7 by Alfie.
The fact that Kat responded in her totally typically entitled way - mindful of the fact that since her latest perfidy, she has blamed Derek, she has blamed Roxy, she has even blamed Alfie for her infidelity, but never herself. Never. Never.
She was angry because Roxy, Jean and the Walking Dead (Michael) knew of the impending announcement before she did; and if Kat hadn't chosen to stick her head up her backside and listen to the wisdom of Bianca (never a good thing to do), then she would have twigged that the "serious subject" which Alfie wanted to discuss was anything but a reconciliation. How could she even imagine that someone might want yet another chance at marriage after yet another heartbreak? Alfie had had enough.
And as much as she thought her public humiliation of him belittled him, she was the one left looking small in character.
The tetchy point which Nebraska keeps force-feeding these two cheerleading bullies has to do with a comparison between Alfie and Kat and Max and Tanya. Kat's immoral behaviour is exonerated. Her serial adultery condoned, celebrated and blamed on Alfie. Poor Kat is a victim.
On the other hand, Max's serial cheating on Tanya is viewed as appalling. Poor Tanya, who puts up with this repeatedly, believes his lies, irons his shirts and carries on loving him and taking him back, deserves better. Max knows exactly what he's doing when he chases a new piece of skirt while Tanya stays at home. He's a bastard, and he owns it.
But nobody calls poor Tanya a doormat. Not anyone. Certainly not Will Slater-Mitchell or Bex.
And since they're reluctant to define their idea of the "manly man" they insist Alfie is not, then perhaps, rather than calling out snide insults the way Slater-Mitchell told Nebraska to take a chill pill, they'd be better off, sloping off to worship at the altar of someone whom they may consider a paragon of a "manly man". Someone who really knows how to treat a woman ...
Oscar Pistorious.
You see, they're not Kalfie shippers. No. They, especially the insidious Will Slater-Mitchell, purport to be avid fans of Kat Slater as was - the iconic female figure from the 2000-2005 period - the mouthy tart-with-a-heart who never does anything but good (even when she's doing wrong) and who, for some reason, deserves better than someone like Alfie - whom they see as a drip, a doormat and a dishrag whose very existence as such gives Kat relevance to behave as she wants.
They excuse the fact that she absolves herself of any responsibility by citing wicked Uncle'Arry's abuse as an excuse to be the "dirty girl" she describes herself as being, every time she slopes off to fuck some random stranger in an alleway because the husband whose love she said redeemed her and made her feel clean again when she married him almost a decade ago.
The abject truth is that Bex and Will Slater-Mitchell, the latter of whom sports a Kat avatar, are simply Alfie-haters - and for "Alfie", read man-haters, who would like Walford to evolve into an Amazonian society of loud, gobby, rude and smacking females - which they would mistakenly recognise as feisty and strong.
They're wrong.
Their chief complaint on the thread is how "pathetic" Alfie's reaction to Kat, post-split, has been - how he hasn't stopped looking after her or caring for her, how his behaviour has willfully led her to believe he still cares and how he's deluding Roxy.
The ambiguous screen names and dubious female avatars might make some lurkers believe these are extremely bitchy women pushing some pretty inappropriate behaviour in a fortysomething woman who should know better, and actually excusing infidelity in a woman when such behaviour would be condemned in a man.
They aren't women. They're men, and their sexism regarding their own gender is both fallacious and disgusting. For them, Alfie has always been a doormat. They practice a double standard that's pernicious to the nth degree, and the ironic fact is that they're too obtuse to realise that, in accusing Alfie of cowardice in the face of Kat, by refusing to answer the viable and relevant points raised by one prominent forum member, Nebraska, they are pretty big cowards, themselves - especially the loquacious Will Slater-Mitchell.
Check out pages 2 and 3 of the thread, and you'll see what I mean.
For in their jaded opinion, Alfie is damned whatever he does. He would have been damned if he'd chucked Kat when she crawled back to Walford, pregnant with his cousin's child, after a one-night stand - and, bozos (and I'm speaking to Bex and Will, here, who also happen to be two of the biggest bullybois Walford Web has ever produced), please note: a couple is a couple until they are divorced. Any separation of a couple, unless it's by divorce, means they are still married; so when Kat slept with the Living Dead, she was still married to Alfie.
If you don't believe that, check out the goddamn law.
Yes, if Alfie had refused to honour his serially unfaithful wife and assume parenthood for another man's child, he would have been condemned. As it is, he's condemned for doing so. Thus, in the world of Bex and Will, he is not a "manly man" - although they never actually make it clear what a "manly man" should do in this situation. I guess that also makes the likes of Patrick Truman, Ian Beale, Kevin and Brian Wicks and Garry Hobbes not "manly men," because they've taken on other men's children and raised them as their own. Hell, even Phil Mitchell's done that.
Alfie would have also been condemned if he'd slung Kat out into the street when he first found out about her knee-trembler with the delivery man. They would have screamed their disgust at such treatment. As it was, they failed to understand how someone could so completely love another person that they live in hope that their behaviour might one day change - such unconditional love, makes a man a doormat and that's what they labelled Alfie.
They need to remember the way Grant Mitchell behaved when his wife was unfaithful with his brother. They would have condemned the prolonged response of bartering her off as a whore to his mates, culminating in forcing her to sign divorce papers by marching slowly around the kitchen table, systematically smashing dishes until she was terrorised into signing the papers and leaving town. They would also have condemned Ricky Butcher for running after the feckless Bianca in the wake of her infidelity with Dan Sullivan, desperate for a future with his wife.
And lately, this week, they condemn the way Alfie asked Kat for a divorce.
He was measured, compassionate and kind. He was reasonable. He told her he loved her and would always love her; but because he no longer trusted her, there could be no marriage, and he would have to move on. Compare that with the way Grant Mitchell forced divorce upon Sharon. Or think about that other "manly man," Ian Beale, flinging Wife Number Three, Laura, out into the cold on a Christmas Day, because he didn't think he fathered her child. Or think of the original divorce action on the programme - Den serving Angie with papers on Christmas Day after discovering her deception.
Maybe they were "manly men," but I suppose they would probably condemn those men as assholes, themselves. Takes one to know one.
Alfie's civilised approach smoked out Kat's entitlement and arrogance. First, she used Tommy as a weapon (as she usually does). That didn't work. Then she grasped at straws, reminding him that he did say he loved her and promising him they could build on that, even promising him she would change (always a sign of someone on the losing end of something). And that would work until she got bored or felt she was being slighted by not being worshipped 24/7 by Alfie.
The fact that Kat responded in her totally typically entitled way - mindful of the fact that since her latest perfidy, she has blamed Derek, she has blamed Roxy, she has even blamed Alfie for her infidelity, but never herself. Never. Never.
She was angry because Roxy, Jean and the Walking Dead (Michael) knew of the impending announcement before she did; and if Kat hadn't chosen to stick her head up her backside and listen to the wisdom of Bianca (never a good thing to do), then she would have twigged that the "serious subject" which Alfie wanted to discuss was anything but a reconciliation. How could she even imagine that someone might want yet another chance at marriage after yet another heartbreak? Alfie had had enough.
And as much as she thought her public humiliation of him belittled him, she was the one left looking small in character.
The tetchy point which Nebraska keeps force-feeding these two cheerleading bullies has to do with a comparison between Alfie and Kat and Max and Tanya. Kat's immoral behaviour is exonerated. Her serial adultery condoned, celebrated and blamed on Alfie. Poor Kat is a victim.
On the other hand, Max's serial cheating on Tanya is viewed as appalling. Poor Tanya, who puts up with this repeatedly, believes his lies, irons his shirts and carries on loving him and taking him back, deserves better. Max knows exactly what he's doing when he chases a new piece of skirt while Tanya stays at home. He's a bastard, and he owns it.
But nobody calls poor Tanya a doormat. Not anyone. Certainly not Will Slater-Mitchell or Bex.
And since they're reluctant to define their idea of the "manly man" they insist Alfie is not, then perhaps, rather than calling out snide insults the way Slater-Mitchell told Nebraska to take a chill pill, they'd be better off, sloping off to worship at the altar of someone whom they may consider a paragon of a "manly man". Someone who really knows how to treat a woman ...
Oscar Pistorious.
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