At various times and on various fora, discussions arise about the sexual proclivities of certain Walford residents.
A lot of talk and dissension centres around the women - namely Roxy, Tanya, Kat and Whitney and their assorted virtues.
For years, the general consensus of opinion has been that Yummy Mummy Tanya has been a saint - even though she was the teenaged, promiscuous, drug-and-drink-addled hairdresser who chased after married man Max Branning, getting up the duff by him and then whining until he dumped his first wife and child to make her his latest missus.
Max had a white-collar job and offered Tanya the chav a way out of the sink estate on which she lived and scrubbed her up to try to pass as Mrs Middle England. In fact, everything Tanya's ever achieved has been through an association with a man. Max was subsequently unfaithful to her, even with his son's fiancee. But it never has dawned on Tanya that Stacey Slater was to her what she was to Rachel, Max's first wife - even with Rachel stating the bleeding obvious to her face.
And even with her own mother leveling home truths at her, Tanya still thinks herself without sin - and that's after trying to murder her husband, covering for her daughter's attempted murder of him, marrying gormless Greg for his money and then cheating on him and robbing her employer (Roxy) blind.
As for Roxy, many of the moral high minds on both Walford Web and Digital Spy think of Roxy as a slut, when she's not.
Roxy has been on the show for five years, and in those five years, she's slept with the following men:-
Roxy's reason for pursuing Max was twofold: she had just come off an excruciating custody case against Jack for Amy, during which the Brannings tried to scam and frighten her. First, seducing Max was a means of revenge. Secondly, Roxy was lonely. Besides, even though Max was living with Tanya, he'd not actually committed himself fully. He was playing the good guy here, but he was certainly tempted.
Then, several people cite Roxy's love for Alfie - well the faux moralist trolls, like Biffo/Blossom and vald, think Roxy's motives were ulterior. Anything but. Truth is, there's no legislating with whom a person falls in love. And Roxy loved and loves Alfie. In fact, she invested time in telling him about her feelings - although Biffo/Blossom and vald started jumping up and down and squealing, "She wanted to go upstairs with him! She wanted to go upstairs with him! There's only one thing that means!"
That means nothing. At the end of a shift, when she wanted to talk to Alfie, she suggested going upstairs - where Jean and Shenice were, which made anything sexual near to impossible. Roxy confessed her feelings to Alfie, and Alfie disabused her of any notion that they would have a future together, because he was a married man.
Unlike his wife, a bona fide slut, Alfie takes his marriage vows, and fidelity, seriously. This is why, even after allowing Roxy and Amy to live in the Vic for a few months, he still retains the moral high ground over Kat.
This is the same Kat, who is on her fifth round of infidelity since she married, nine years ago. This is the same Kat who refuses to take responsibility for her infidelities because she's (sigh) a dirty girl. She only does what she does when her husband ignores her for five minutes. Now she's allowed Derek Branning (yes, you'll see, it will be) to pork her one too many times, and she's found - surprise surprise - that Alfie really does love her, after all. He never stopped loving her, but the dumb bitch has her head so far up her ass that she doesn't realise that "love" isn't wall-to-wall sex, and now she's got Derek Branning (yes, you'll see, it will be) writing her billets doux in lippy on gauze bandages; because for Derek, "love" with a woman does mean wall-to-wall sex and control. I'd love to see Katshit end up with Derek; they deserve each other.
The fallacy here which a lot of people make is in assuming that sluts can only be women, when I actually think that the biggest slut in Walford is actually a man. Maybe two men.
The runner-up is actually Christian, who - before finally settling down with Syed - revelled in one night stands and casual sexual encounters. Yet no one batted an eyelid at his pick-up rate, not to mention that it was always Christian on hand to out or bring out any youngster pegged in the closet.
But the real winner is Jack Branning. Jack slept with two sisters and their cousin and impregnated them all. Jack slept with his brother's wife and then slept with her sister. Jack fucked Chelsea Fox in the toilet of the Arjee Bahgee. Jack was the first in line casting stones at babymamma Roxy when he was late to reluctantly babysit their child, something that resulted in Amy having a near-tragic accident.
Now Jack's allowed Roxy and Amy to move into his flat. It doesn't mean they're a family unit, but Jack does now have his young daughter living with him. Since then and before, he's cutting a swathe through a plethora of casual, nameless pick-ups and parading them about the Square, including a threesome in one instance. Already, Roxy's complained about him staying out all night, and - prior to her moving in - we've had the most unrealistic coupling in EastEnders' history in showing Sharon Rickman, a woman to whom "one-night-stand" is a foreign phrase, seducing and sleeping with Jack on her first night back in Walford.
Jack's got a daughter in France whom he sees about once every two years, a son in Portugal whom he hasn't seen since he was born and about whom he doesn't give a rat's ass, and a daughter on the Square he sees only when it suits him. He cried buckets of crocodile tears when she moved eight steps away from him on the Square, and now he's got her living under the same roof with him, he can't be bothered to behave like a responsible adult and stop slutting about, bringing his conquests back to the flat and asking them to sit at the breakfast table with his daughter and her mother.
Yet no one's commented on this. However, if this were Roxy, catting about and bringing all sorts of men back to the flat, she'd be branded a slut and unfit to be a mother to Amy.
Auntie Sal got the measure of Jack when Ronnie married him, remarking about how Amy would be all confused when she found that her Auntie was marrying her daddy and two of her cousins (once who's since died) were actually her siblings.
Jack is by far the worst slut in Walford - even worse than worse, he's a common slut. That's the most pejorative by far.
We need to see a good STD storyline, with Jack at the centre, the walking penis.
A lot of talk and dissension centres around the women - namely Roxy, Tanya, Kat and Whitney and their assorted virtues.
For years, the general consensus of opinion has been that Yummy Mummy Tanya has been a saint - even though she was the teenaged, promiscuous, drug-and-drink-addled hairdresser who chased after married man Max Branning, getting up the duff by him and then whining until he dumped his first wife and child to make her his latest missus.
Max had a white-collar job and offered Tanya the chav a way out of the sink estate on which she lived and scrubbed her up to try to pass as Mrs Middle England. In fact, everything Tanya's ever achieved has been through an association with a man. Max was subsequently unfaithful to her, even with his son's fiancee. But it never has dawned on Tanya that Stacey Slater was to her what she was to Rachel, Max's first wife - even with Rachel stating the bleeding obvious to her face.
And even with her own mother leveling home truths at her, Tanya still thinks herself without sin - and that's after trying to murder her husband, covering for her daughter's attempted murder of him, marrying gormless Greg for his money and then cheating on him and robbing her employer (Roxy) blind.
As for Roxy, many of the moral high minds on both Walford Web and Digital Spy think of Roxy as a slut, when she's not.
Roxy has been on the show for five years, and in those five years, she's slept with the following men:-
- Jack (twice) - both times when Jack was not an item with her sister. The first time she got pregnant by him.
- Sean Slater - whom she genuinely thought was the father of her daughter, because she'd slept with him far more times than the one time she experienced Jack's magical sperm. She married Sean.
- Jase Dyer - once, although it should have been more. I thought Roxy and Jase had far more chemistry than Dawn and Jase.
- Al Jenkins - they actually did have a relationship, but then Al had to leave Walford. Roxy didn't love him enough to go with him.
- Michael Moon - another relationship which descended into the realm of weirdness.
Roxy's reason for pursuing Max was twofold: she had just come off an excruciating custody case against Jack for Amy, during which the Brannings tried to scam and frighten her. First, seducing Max was a means of revenge. Secondly, Roxy was lonely. Besides, even though Max was living with Tanya, he'd not actually committed himself fully. He was playing the good guy here, but he was certainly tempted.
Then, several people cite Roxy's love for Alfie - well the faux moralist trolls, like Biffo/Blossom and vald, think Roxy's motives were ulterior. Anything but. Truth is, there's no legislating with whom a person falls in love. And Roxy loved and loves Alfie. In fact, she invested time in telling him about her feelings - although Biffo/Blossom and vald started jumping up and down and squealing, "She wanted to go upstairs with him! She wanted to go upstairs with him! There's only one thing that means!"
That means nothing. At the end of a shift, when she wanted to talk to Alfie, she suggested going upstairs - where Jean and Shenice were, which made anything sexual near to impossible. Roxy confessed her feelings to Alfie, and Alfie disabused her of any notion that they would have a future together, because he was a married man.
Unlike his wife, a bona fide slut, Alfie takes his marriage vows, and fidelity, seriously. This is why, even after allowing Roxy and Amy to live in the Vic for a few months, he still retains the moral high ground over Kat.
This is the same Kat, who is on her fifth round of infidelity since she married, nine years ago. This is the same Kat who refuses to take responsibility for her infidelities because she's (sigh) a dirty girl. She only does what she does when her husband ignores her for five minutes. Now she's allowed Derek Branning (yes, you'll see, it will be) to pork her one too many times, and she's found - surprise surprise - that Alfie really does love her, after all. He never stopped loving her, but the dumb bitch has her head so far up her ass that she doesn't realise that "love" isn't wall-to-wall sex, and now she's got Derek Branning (yes, you'll see, it will be) writing her billets doux in lippy on gauze bandages; because for Derek, "love" with a woman does mean wall-to-wall sex and control. I'd love to see Katshit end up with Derek; they deserve each other.
The fallacy here which a lot of people make is in assuming that sluts can only be women, when I actually think that the biggest slut in Walford is actually a man. Maybe two men.
The runner-up is actually Christian, who - before finally settling down with Syed - revelled in one night stands and casual sexual encounters. Yet no one batted an eyelid at his pick-up rate, not to mention that it was always Christian on hand to out or bring out any youngster pegged in the closet.
But the real winner is Jack Branning. Jack slept with two sisters and their cousin and impregnated them all. Jack slept with his brother's wife and then slept with her sister. Jack fucked Chelsea Fox in the toilet of the Arjee Bahgee. Jack was the first in line casting stones at babymamma Roxy when he was late to reluctantly babysit their child, something that resulted in Amy having a near-tragic accident.
Now Jack's allowed Roxy and Amy to move into his flat. It doesn't mean they're a family unit, but Jack does now have his young daughter living with him. Since then and before, he's cutting a swathe through a plethora of casual, nameless pick-ups and parading them about the Square, including a threesome in one instance. Already, Roxy's complained about him staying out all night, and - prior to her moving in - we've had the most unrealistic coupling in EastEnders' history in showing Sharon Rickman, a woman to whom "one-night-stand" is a foreign phrase, seducing and sleeping with Jack on her first night back in Walford.
Jack's got a daughter in France whom he sees about once every two years, a son in Portugal whom he hasn't seen since he was born and about whom he doesn't give a rat's ass, and a daughter on the Square he sees only when it suits him. He cried buckets of crocodile tears when she moved eight steps away from him on the Square, and now he's got her living under the same roof with him, he can't be bothered to behave like a responsible adult and stop slutting about, bringing his conquests back to the flat and asking them to sit at the breakfast table with his daughter and her mother.
Yet no one's commented on this. However, if this were Roxy, catting about and bringing all sorts of men back to the flat, she'd be branded a slut and unfit to be a mother to Amy.
Auntie Sal got the measure of Jack when Ronnie married him, remarking about how Amy would be all confused when she found that her Auntie was marrying her daddy and two of her cousins (once who's since died) were actually her siblings.
Jack is by far the worst slut in Walford - even worse than worse, he's a common slut. That's the most pejorative by far.
We need to see a good STD storyline, with Jack at the centre, the walking penis.
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